(07-30-2020, 06:53 PM)Everything4404 Wrote: imo, I disagree that people can just go "hey, this is bad, you go fix it". Like if they have reasons and it's significant maybe...
Um. Dude. You've basically done this very thing multiple times since you joined. On the Discord and on the forum. Even after being told that this isn't how we do things and the way we do do things.
You're just the most recent, not by any means the only, person to do this.
While you're correct that the actual words 'you go fix it' aren't used, when someone says 'I think there should be an article on X or that the article on Y should be changed in Z fashion' and then either doesn't offer to take on the project (or doesn't say anything else about it) or - when asked if they are willing to take on the project - begs off due to reasons of time, skill, experience, whatever - by default that rather only leaves that one of us should take care of it. And unless the poster experienced a significant change in circumstances around their time/skill/experience/whatever between their original post and our response, logically they knew their situation precluded doing the project when they made the suggestion.
Certainly we want people to share ideas on how to expand/improve the setting. And a mechanism by which we could help people who lack the wherewithal to bring an article to fruition even though they have a good idea would be cool - but I don't see us as having the resources for that even if we decided that such a course didn't violate the entire ethos of the project.
(07-30-2020, 06:53 PM)Everything4404 Wrote: I think people on discord when they want to contribute to OA look at the forums and go: "Oh no, that's way too slow paced for me. I prefer Discord, where conversation is faster." Atm if i want to see a new post or a message i have to refresh the page
On the Discord, conversation stops when everyone goes to bed. It's very much geared to real-time rather than asynchronous discussion. Trying to have a conversation on any one thing means plowing through 15 other conversations all going on at once. There's no stored record of any conversation that's readily accessible and allows a user to come up to speed on what's already been discussed or what's gone on while they've been away. And perhaps most importantly - I've yet to see an actual EG article get produced by it.
If the Discord can come up with a process that consistently (meaning not just a one off) produces an acceptable quality end product (aka EG articles) then we might consider modifying the process to allow for article production based there (while also keeping the forum probably). I have doubts about that happening. But if the Discord can prove me wrong I won't shed a tear.
I've also occasionally looked around for something that might replace the forum in terms of more advanced/modern features and such. I haven't found much, and the one thing I did find would cost thousands of dollars a year or more to run. Which - unfortunately - is not within our budget atm.
Todd
EDIT - If someone does know of a free or very cheap 'next generation' forum or similar tool that they'd like to suggest, please do. I can't say when or if we'd be in a position to do anything about it. But we can't even consider a replacement for the forum if we don't know it exists.
EDIT EDIT - Ok, now having said that I did some googling and found this - Flarum. Not that we'd change instantly just because we found something (plus we have other irons in the fire). But this is apparently free and appears (to my inexperienced eye) to combine some features of forums and discord. Hmm.