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(08-18-2021, 10:53 PM)Rynn Wrote: Yup that certainly works.



We've never set the exact numbers throughout the timeline, but in the current era there are roughly 1000x less transaps/archai every level you go up. Around this time period S2s are quite rare, but are steadily getting more numerous as the safer routes through the second singularity are charted. If we posit 10-100 S2s existing at the time, then we'd expect 10-100,000 S1s across the entire setting. They're not going to be evenly distributed (some systems might have hundreds, others none), but they're also not going to be so rare that you wouldn't see them running projects like this.

In terms of influence they'd have extensive influence, if they wanted it. In reality most S1 probably don't spend that much time interacting with modos or modo civilisation. Those that do could either directly control nations (making them akin to world leaders of superpowers IRL) or indirectly exert influence financially/culturally (imagine a cross between social media influencer and billionaire).



2800 is the age of establishment. The archai have arrived and begin to build metaempires with wormhole backbones. We're going to be updatin this part of the canon soon as it's not been touched in many years, but that aspect will likely stay. There will be a small number of S4 archai in this period (the first ascending just a couple of centuries prior). Using the same rule of thumb above and assuming around 10 S4, there would be about 10,000 S2 and 10 million S1. Again their influence would range from extensive, to light, to not-present, depending on the system.



Unless their being deceived modos can tell by observation. Typically of things like "what kind of processor does the S1 use?" and "what kind of infrastructure is it building?"

Writing about transaps is very difficult and it's something even experienced members struggle with. My top two tips are these:

1) Treat transap more like acts of nature, not characters. Characters have understandable motivations, storms do not. This isn't to mean a transap needs to be treated as a destructive force, but their actions can have massive consequences and modos at the time will shrug and deal with it without bothering too much with why the transap is doing what they're doing.

2) Make use of avatars when writing dialog. A transap could hold in-depth conversations with hundreds of humans at once, and it would be barely any less distracting than a human having a casual conversation while doing the dishes. Most of the time a transap wouldn't even bother talking to a human, instead they'd whip up a semi-autonomous program that would do it for them. If people are talking to your transap they should be talking to an avatar, which may have personality quirks not representative of the being that made it.



Tentatively I'd say yes. The study of history isn't something just reserved for modos, and if there is historical evidence that a transap deceived a large group for a long time later modos could find it out, potentially with transap help.
Hello Rynn,

Thank you for the advice, figures, historical information, and especially the advice regarding transapients. I will use this information, and information gained previously, to derive some more complex questions and proposals to be asked in a different thread (see below). I should have something (hopefully) much more interesting and detailed by the time I get back.

Sincerely,
Rho Ophiuchi
(08-18-2021, 10:08 PM)The Astronomer Wrote: Before we continue, I have a question...are we really gonna be fleshing out the entire project here? lol
(08-18-2021, 10:54 PM)Rynn Wrote: Chatting in general about the setting is fine for a welcome thread. If the OP wants to continue developing their idea we could split to a new thread Smile
Hello All,

With this in mind, I will write up everything I have so far and post it in a new thread in the "General Setting Discussion" section, as "ideas and concepts that are not intended for submission yet" seems to fit what I currently have. This may take up to 100 kiloseconds.

Sincerely,
Rho Ophiuchi
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Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-17-2021, 07:49 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-17-2021, 09:02 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-17-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-17-2021, 11:05 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-17-2021, 11:22 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-17-2021, 11:38 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-17-2021, 11:51 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by The Astronomer - 08-17-2021, 11:51 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by The Astronomer - 08-17-2021, 09:59 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-17-2021, 10:49 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Worldtree - 08-18-2021, 12:26 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-17-2021, 10:53 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-17-2021, 11:19 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by selden - 08-18-2021, 12:08 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 12:41 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Worldtree - 08-18-2021, 01:11 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 01:32 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by selden - 08-18-2021, 12:46 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-18-2021, 02:04 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 05:35 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Worldtree - 08-18-2021, 02:28 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Worldtree - 08-18-2021, 08:10 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 08:57 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Worldtree - 08-18-2021, 09:43 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 10:52 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Worldtree - 08-18-2021, 11:36 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by The Astronomer - 08-18-2021, 10:48 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Drashner1 - 08-18-2021, 11:27 AM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 07:37 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by The Astronomer - 08-18-2021, 08:37 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rynn - 08-18-2021, 09:07 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 09:31 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rynn - 08-18-2021, 10:53 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rynn - 08-18-2021, 07:01 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by The Astronomer - 08-18-2021, 10:08 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rynn - 08-18-2021, 10:54 PM
RE: Greetings, people of OA - by Rho Ophiuchi - 08-18-2021, 11:33 PM

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